Emmy nominations

[Maximus]

Damn, Ray's gonna be the odd man out in this year's award ceremony. All the cast members, as usual, were nominated in their respective categories except Ray.

On a sidenote, "Friends" and "Frasier" were not nominated in the best comedy category. ELR was nominated again.

[Rachel]

I was watching E! when they announced the nominations. The hosts talked live on the phone to Peter Boyle and he said something about Ray not being nominated. They said ELR was nominated for 9 Emmys all together. Best Comedy, nods for patty, brad, doris, and peter. Guest actor and actress nods for Fred Willard and Georgia Engel, but I'm not sure what the other 2 are for. I'm so mad Friends wasn't nominated, and I bet Sam is boiling about it.

[transporter]

Was John Ritter nominated just because he died? >_<

I guess this will be one of those 'tribute' nominatinos and he'll win by default.

[davej]

Exactly! do we need any more evidence that the awards are based on emotions and politics and not on anything else?

Ray was passed over for a dead guy! They picked a dead guy instead of the highest paid man in TV! they picked a dead guy who only did three episodes in a show in its third season, over the man who is about to enter into his 9th season!

Do we need any more evidence that many of these people in Hollywood are wackos?

[transporter]

Well, don't get me wrong I"m not trying to disrespect John Ritter, but his show was on for two years and I don't remember him being nominated last year.

I do feel just because someone died doesn't meean the criteria should change.

[Maximus]

The other two categories are:

8. Outstanding Multi-Camera Picture Editing for a Series (For Golf For It ~3/4 of which was shot inside a minivan)
9. Outstanding Sound Mixing for a series (For The Model)

So, no nominations for the writers this year. If a series is nominated in the best comedy category, isn't it intuitive that it should also be nominated in the best writing category? One would think there's an obvious correlation between the two.

[Laur70]

I agree Yupi, one would think that a show would be nominated for the writing category if they are for the best comedy category. It doesn't seem to make sense. What are they basing the best comedy category on? Music used during the episode? Wardrobe choice? Based on loudness of audience laughter? I kid, but I wonder why a show would get one nomination and not another that relates exactly to the other.

I totally did not know that Emmy nominations came out today. Oops.

[Samantha]

I don't mind that John Ritter was nominated, I am one of those thats think its nice to honor people for all around achievments not just for a particular work in a particular year. I was happy when Susan Lucci won her Emmy and she didnt really deserve it for the year she got it. Yeah its not fair but really the whole process is unfair so why nit pick.

As for Friends not being nominated that is not cool. Friends had a better last season the ELR's 8th I will say that straight out. It should have been nominated.

That is all.

[davej]

The show (the writers) has been nominated. As it should have been. Actually if you read the list of categories there are a lot more that the show should have ben nominated for (like cast for one)

Second, John Ritter is dead and was not nominated when he was alive. Has his performance improved since he died? He is not here to receive or hear anything.

This is political correctness pure and simple. I just wonder why the academy picked on Ray? Why was HE slighted and not someone else?

[longtime lurker]

I dont get it. what makes u cartain that John Ritter was specifically picked over Ray ?? granted the emmy voters showed bad judgement in nominating a dead guy but that doesnt necessarily mean he was picked at the expense of Ray. prerenial emmy favorites like eric mccormack and bernie mack were also left out. how do u explain THAT ?

[Maximus]

Good point, longtime lurker. The fact of the matter is there's no way one can claim for sure that John Ritter was chosen over Ray. Just because Ray wasn't chosen doesn't mean the academy was "picking" on Ray. Like lurker pointed out, other past nominees besides Ray were also left out this year. The academy showed bad judgement (in my opinion) by choosing a dead actor, but I see no grand conspiracy here.

[davej]

OK. so we disagree. All I know is that all the other nominees are the same as last year.


Except one!

[longtime lurker]

>> All I know is that all the other nominees are the same as last year. Except one!

dave, dave, dave. Do u even do a little research before making a comment like above?? it took me less than 2 minutes to dig up the following info. Ray wasnt the only actor from last year's group to not make the cut this year. For your information:

Nominations for best actor in comedy for 2003
1. Tony Shalhoub
2. Larry David
3. Matt LeBlanc
4. Bernie Mac
5. Eric McCormack
6. Ray Romano

Now compare the above list to the list for this year:

Nominations for best actor in comedy for 2004
1. Tony Shalhoub
2. Larry David
3. Matt LeBlanc
4. Kelsey Grammer
5. John Ritter

i dunno about you but i see THREE actors from last year that didnt make the cut this year. Still think there was some sort of conspiracy in Hollywood to "pick" on ray??
if youre not yet convinced, i give up.

[davej]

OK. so I was wrong. Sorry! Sheeeeesh!